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   <title>Crise : Colombo mène l’enquête</title>
   <updated>2011-09-05T16:27:00+02:00</updated>
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      Après plusieurs années de retraite, Colombo reprend du service pour une victime de renom : l’économie mondiale. Quelqu’un l’a sauvagement tuée. Mais qui ? Colombo mène l’enquête avec son style inimitable. Son seul indice ? Un billet de banque retrouvé sur le corps de la victime…
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      Voilà pour planter le décor de ce petit montage vidéo très bien fait. Ce dernier reprend l'opposition entre les théories de Keynes et de Hayek, déjà développée dans des désormais célèbres <a class="link" href="http://www.economieetsociete.com/Keynes-vs-Hayek-round-2_a732.html">battle de rap.</a> Sur le fonds, les choses se gâtent un peu puisque les auteurs n’hésitent pas à faire des raccourcis. De plus, opposés d’une manière aussi frontale ces deux visions économiques est trop caricaturale. Et si, comme dans un bon Agatha Christie, la victime n’aurait pas été tuée par les deux suspects ? En tout cas, la vidéo mérite de poser le débat. Et vous, quand pensez-vous ? Bonne enquête.       <br />
       
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   <title>Keynes vs Hayek : round 2</title>
   <updated>2011-05-25T11:53:00+02:00</updated>
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      <a class="link" href="http://econstories.tv/" target="_blank">Econstories</a> remet ça. Après le succès de la première vidéo, <a class="link" href="http://www.economieetsociete.com/Le-rap-de-Keynes-et-Hayek-une-battle-d-economistes_a221.html">Fear the Boom and Bust,</a>  visionnée plus de deux millions de fois sur YoutTube et traduite en dix langues, il vient de lancer une nouvelle vidéo intitulée <span style="font-style:italic">The fight of the century</span>. Voici donc le second round entre deux des plus connus des économistes. Alors, selon vous, qui sort gagnant de cette battle ?
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     <div><b>Les paroles de “Fight of the Century” </b></div>
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      Ecrit par John Papola et Russ Roberts       <br />
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       KEYNES       <br />
       Here we are… peace out! great recession       <br />
       thanks to me, as you see, we’re not in a depression       <br />
       Recovery, destiny if you follow my lesson       <br />
       Lord Keynes, here I come, line up for the procession       <br />
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       HAYEK       <br />
       We brought out the shovels and we’re still in a ditch…       <br />
       And still digging. don’t you think that it’s time for a switch…       <br />
       From that hair of the dog. Friend, the party is over.       <br />
       The long run is here. It’s time to get sober!       <br />
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       KEYNES       <br />
       Are you kidding? my cure works perfectly fine…       <br />
       have a look, the great recession ended back in ’09.       <br />
       I deserve credit. Things would have been worse       <br />
       All the estimates prove it—I’ll quote chapter and verse       <br />
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       HAYEK       <br />
       Econometricians, they’re ever so pious       <br />
       Are they doing real science or confirming their bias?       <br />
       Their “Keynesian” models are tidy and neat       <br />
       But that top down approach is a fatal conceit       <br />
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       REFRAIN       <br />
       Which way should we choose?       <br />
       more bottom up or more top down       <br />
       …the fight continues…       <br />
       Keynes and Hayek’s second round       <br />
       it’s time to weigh in…       <br />
       more from the top or from the ground       <br />
       …lets listen to the greats       <br />
       Keynes and Hayek throwing down       <br />
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       KEYNES       <br />
       We could have done better, had we only spent more       <br />
       Too bad that only happens when there’s a World War       <br />
       You can carp all you want about stats and regression       <br />
       Do you deny World War II cut short the Depression?       <br />
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       HAYEK       <br />
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       Wow. One data point and you’re jumping for joy       <br />
       the Last time I checked, wars only destroy       <br />
       There was no multiplier, consumption just shrank       <br />
       As we used scarce resources for every new tank       <br />
       Pretty perverse to call that prosperity       <br />
       Rationed meat, Rationed butter… a life of austerity       <br />
       When that war spending ended your friends cried disaster       <br />
       yet the economy thrived and grew faster       <br />
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       KEYNES       <br />
       You too only see what you want to see       <br />
       The spending on war clearly goosed GDP       <br />
       Unemployment was over, almost down to zero       <br />
       That’s why I’m the master, that’s why I’m the hero       <br />
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       HAYEK       <br />
       Creating employment’s a straightforward craft       <br />
       When the nation’s at war, and there’s a draft       <br />
       If every worker was staffed in the army and fleet       <br />
       We’d have full employment and nothing to eat       <br />
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       REFRAIN REPEATS       <br />
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       HAYEK       <br />
       jobs are a means, not the ends in themselves       <br />
       people work to live better, to put food on the shelves       <br />
       real growth means production of what people demand       <br />
       That’s entrepreneurship not your central plan       <br />
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       KEYNES       <br />
       My solution is simple and easy to handle..       <br />
       its spending that matters, why’s that such a scandal?       <br />
       The money sloshes through the pipes and the sluices       <br />
       revitalizing the economy’s juices       <br />
       it’s just like an engine that’s stalled and gone dark       <br />
       To bring it to life, we need a quick spark       <br />
       Spending’s the life blood that gets the flow going       <br />
       Where it goes doesn’t matter, just get spending flowing       <br />
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       HAYEK       <br />
       You see slack in some sectors as a “general glut”       <br />
       But some sectors are healthy, only some in a rut       <br />
       So spending’s not free – that’s the heart of the matter       <br />
       too much is wasted as cronies get fatter.       <br />
       The economy’s not a car, there’s no engine to stall       <br />
       no expert can fix it, there’s no “it” at all.       <br />
       The economy’s us, we don’t need a mechanic       <br />
       Put away the wrenches, the economy’s organic       <br />
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       REFRAIN REPEATS       <br />
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       KEYNES       <br />
       so what would you do to help those unemployed?       <br />
       this is the question you seem to avoid       <br />
       when we’re in a mess, would you just have us wait?       <br />
       Doing nothing until markets equilibrate?       <br />
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       HAYEK       <br />
       I don’t want to do nothing, there’s plenty to do       <br />
       The question I ponder is who plans for whom?       <br />
       Do I plan for myself or leave it to you?       <br />
       I want plans by the many, not by the few.       <br />
       Let’s not repeat what created our troubles       <br />
       I want real growth not a series of bubbles       <br />
       Stop bailing out loser, let prices work       <br />
       If we don’t try to steer them they won’t go berserk       <br />
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       KEYNES       <br />
       Come on, Are you kidding? Don’t Wall Street’s gyrations       <br />
       Challenge your world view of self-regulation?       <br />
       Even you must admit that the lesson we’ve learned       <br />
       Is more oversight’s needed or else we’ll get burned       <br />
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       HAYEK       <br />
       Oversight? The government’s long been in bed       <br />
       With those Wall Street execs and the firms that they’ve bled       <br />
       Capitalism’s about profit and loss       <br />
       you bail out the losers there’s no end to the cost       <br />
       the lesson I’ve learned? It’s how little we know,       <br />
       the world is complex, not some circular flow       <br />
       the economy’s not a class you can master in college       <br />
       to think otherwise is the pretense of knowledge       <br />
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       REFRAIN REPEATS       <br />
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       KEYNES       <br />
       You get on your high horse and you’re off to the races       <br />
       I look at the world on a case by case basis       <br />
       When people are suffering I roll up my sleeves       <br />
       And do what I can to cure our disease       <br />
       The future’s uncertain, our outlooks are frail       <br />
       Thats why free markets are so prone to fail       <br />
       In a volatile world we need more discretion       <br />
       So state intervention can counter depression       <br />
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       HAYEK       <br />
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       People aren’t chessmen you move on a board       <br />
       at your whim–their dreams and desires ignored       <br />
       With political incentives, discretion’s a joke       <br />
       Those dials you’re twisting… just mirrors and smoke       <br />
       We need stable rules and real market prices       <br />
       so prosperity emerges and cuts short the crisis       <br />
       give us a chance so we can discover       <br />
       the most valuable ways to serve one another       <br />
              <br />
       FINAL REFRAIN       <br />
       Which way should we choose?       <br />
       more bottom up or more top down       <br />
       the fight continues…       <br />
       Keynes and Hayek’s second round       <br />
       it’s time to weigh in…       <br />
       more from the top or from the ground       <br />
       …lets listen to the greats       <br />
       Keynes and Hayek throwing down
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   <title>Le rap de Keynes et Hayek : une battle d'économistes</title>
   <updated>2010-02-26T11:51:00+01:00</updated>
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      Depuis près d’un siècle, la théorie économique tente de comprendre comment fonctionne la succession des cycles d’expansion et récession. L’objectif est de pouvoir les combattre. De ces recherches sont nées deux théories opposées. Celle de John Maynard Keynes qui met l’accent sur la consommation et celle de Friedrich Hayek qui insiste sur l'importance de l’épargne et de la libéralisation des marchés.        <br />
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       En ces temps de crise, ce débat prend une nouvelle dimension. Pour notre grand plaisir, les deux plus grands économistes du XXème siècle reviennent parmi les vivants pour s’affronter dans une battle 100 % rap.  John Maynard Keynes prône une politique interventionniste. Quant à Friedrich Hayek, il milite au contraire pour une autorégulation du marché. La vidéo « Fear the boom and bust » a été réalisée par <a class="link" href="http://econstories.tv/home.html" target="_blank">Econstories</a>. Un grand merci à eux.
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      We’ve been going back and forth for a century       <br />
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       [Keynes] I want to steer markets,       <br />
       [Hayek] I want them set free       <br />
       There’s a boom and bust cycle and good reason to fear it       <br />
       [Hayek] Blame low interest rates.       <br />
       [Keynes] No… it’s the animal spirits       <br />
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       Keynes :       <br />
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       John Maynard Keynes, wrote the book on modern macro       <br />
       The man you need when the economy’s off track, [whoa]       <br />
       Depression, recession now your question’s in session       <br />
       Have a seat and I’ll school you in one simple lesson       <br />
       BOOM, 1929 the big crash       <br />
       We didn’t bounce back—economy’s in the trash       <br />
       Persistent unemployment, the result of sticky wages       <br />
       Waiting for recovery ? Seriously ? That’s outrageous !       <br />
       I had a real plan any fool can understand       <br />
       The advice, real simple—boost aggregate demand !       <br />
       C, I, G, all together gets to Y       <br />
       Make sure the total’s growing, watch the economy fly       <br />
       We’ve been going back and forth for a century       <br />
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       [Keynes] I want to steer markets,       <br />
       [Hayek] I want them set free       <br />
       There’s a boom and bust cycle and good reason to fear it       <br />
       [Hayek] Blame low interest rates.       <br />
       [Keynes] No… it’s the animal spirits       <br />
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       Keynes :       <br />
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       You see it’s all about spending, hear the register cha-ching       <br />
       Circular flow, the dough is everything       <br />
       So if that flow is getting low, doesn’t matter the reason       <br />
       We need more government spending, now it’s stimulus season       <br />
       So forget about saving, get it straight out of your head       <br />
       Like I said, in the long run—we’re all dead       <br />
       Savings is destruction, that’s the paradox of thrift       <br />
       Don’t keep money in your pocket, or that growth will never lift…       <br />
       because…       <br />
       Business is driven by the animal spirits       <br />
       The bull and the bear, and there’s reason to fear its       <br />
       Effects on capital investment, income and growth       <br />
       That’s why the state should fill the gap with stimulus both…       <br />
       The monetary and the fiscal, they’re equally correct       <br />
       Public works, digging ditches, war has the same effect       <br />
       Even a broken window helps the glass man have some wealth       <br />
       The multiplier driving higher the economy’s health       <br />
       And if the Central Bank’s interest rate policy tanks       <br />
       A liquidity trap, that new money’s stuck in the banks !       <br />
       Deficits could be the cure, you been looking for       <br />
       Let the spending soar, now that you know the score       <br />
       My General Theory’s made quite an impression       <br />
       [a revolution] I transformed the econ profession       <br />
       You know me, modesty, still I’m taking a bow       <br />
       Say it loud, say it proud, we’re all Keynesians now       <br />
       We’ve been goin’ back n forth for a century       <br />
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       [Keynes] I want to steer markets,       <br />
       [Hayek] I want them set free       <br />
       There’s a boom and bust cycle and good reason to fear it       <br />
       [Keynes] I made my case, Freddie H       <br />
       Listen up , Can you hear it ?       <br />
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       Hayek :       <br />
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       I’ll begin in broad strokes, just like my friend Keynes       <br />
       His theory conceals the mechanics of change,       <br />
       That simple equation, too much aggregation       <br />
       Ignores human action and motivation       <br />
       And yet it continues as a justification       <br />
       For bailouts and payoffs by pols with machinations       <br />
       You provide them with cover to sell us a free lunch       <br />
       Then all that we’re left with is debt, and a bunch       <br />
       If you’re living high on that cheap credit hog       <br />
       Don’t look for cure from the hair of the dog       <br />
       Real savings come first if you want to invest       <br />
       The market coordinates time with interest       <br />
       Your focus on spending is pushing on thread       <br />
       In the long run, my friend, it’s your theory that’s dead       <br />
       So sorry there, buddy, if that sounds like invective       <br />
       Prepared to get schooled in my Austrian perspective       <br />
       We’ve been going back and forth for a century       <br />
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       [Keynes] I want to steer markets,       <br />
       [Hayek] I want them set free       <br />
       There’s a boom and bust cycle and good reason to fear it       <br />
       [Hayek] Blame low interest rates.       <br />
       [Keynes] No… it’s the animal spirits       <br />
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       Hayek :       <br />
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       The place you should study isn’t the bust       <br />
       It’s the boom that should make you feel leery, that’s the thrust       <br />
       Of my theory, the capital structure is key.       <br />
       Malinvestments wreck the economy       <br />
       The boom gets started with an expansion of credit       <br />
       The Fed sets rates low, are you starting to get it ?       <br />
       That new money is confused for real loanable funds       <br />
       But it’s just inflation that’s driving the ones       <br />
       Who invest in new projects like housing construction       <br />
       The boom plants the seeds for its future destruction       <br />
       The savings aren’t real, consumption’s up too       <br />
       And the grasping for resources reveals there’s too few       <br />
       So the boom turns to bust as the interest rates rise       <br />
       With the costs of production, price signals were lies       <br />
       The boom was a binge that’s a matter of fact       <br />
       Now its devalued capital that makes up the slack.       <br />
       Whether it’s the late twenties or two thousand and five       <br />
       Booming bad investments, seems like they’d thrive       <br />
       You must save to invest, don’t use the printing press       <br />
       Or a bust will surely follow, an economy depressed       <br />
       Your so-called “stimulus” will make things even worse       <br />
       It’s just more of the same, more incentives perversed       <br />
       And that credit crunch ain’t a liquidity trap       <br />
       Just a broke banking system, I’m done, that’s a wrap.       <br />
       We’ve been goin’ back n forth for a century       <br />
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       [Keynes] I want to steer markets,       <br />
       [Hayek] I want them set free       <br />
       There’s a boom and bust cycle and good reason to fear it       <br />
       [Hayek] Blame low interest rates.       <br />
       [Keynes] No it’s the animal spirits       <br />
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       “The ideas of economists and political philosophers, both when they are right and when they are wrong, are more powerful than is commonly understood. Indeed the world is ruled by little else. Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influence, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist.”       <br />
       John Maynard Keynes, The General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money       <br />
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       “The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design.”       <br />
       Friedrich Hayek, The Fatal Conceit
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